The dragon and long are energy streams, eastern nations especially China understand this and that is why they are revered. The west always has to have an enemy to slay. The Celts knew about the flow of nature's energy, look what happened to them, called names, killed and converted to the one God. Nature's way was the feminine way but the worship of the female gods were banned. We have today the inability of the west to revere the divine feminine. But human souls are lost and are crying out for what they do not know. If they would turn inward and find their opposite within, they would start to heal. Feng Shui, Geomancy. The art of placement. Ley lines are the flow of Earth's energy. The Chinese understand this. Europe's ley lines were changed and used through the use of the sacred sites, like Stonehenge, the placing of stones, planting trees, guiding the flow of water. Creating harmony. The ancients knew this. Dragons are not evil, they are symbolic of Earth's energy fields.
Agreed. Where did it all go wrong where the dragons were slayed in virtually all Western myths and legends. It was practically a given: slay the monsters, be a slayer! 💀👀
I wonder if the celestial aspect of Chinese long comes from their being used as a metaphor for comets and their concomitant woes (if the research of Hagstrum et al. is anything to go by). Some of the ancient characters attributed to 龍 look rather squat and earthbound for celestial beings.
You make a very important point, that ancient cultures offer their own explanations for this existence, and that translations only approximate their explanation. I can tell you have a great respect for Chinese culture, and attempt to educate us on the subtleties and sophistication therein.
I do attempt, despite my wounds and the reality of persistent efforts of a globalist elite to cancel everything and everyone, to approach this cultural view on its own terms to build understanding.
Your premise, that the loong is not simply a dragon raises questions in my own mind regarding clouds, water, and Chi.
I am not Chinese, but I do believe they have a right to their perspective and destiny. As you probably are quite aware, here in the west there is only one group allowed both perspective and destiny, and such occurs at the expense of everything and everyone else. I think this condition creates a meanness of spirit, a kind of existential bankruptcy, not only in the victims, but also in the perpetrators themselves.
May the loong bring to this world the gifts sorely needed in these times.
Thanks! I once asked the question: "Why not use loong, instead of dragon?" The Chinese [!] students replied: "Because we couldn't get published." I made an effort some years ago to check on English writing guides, like the infamous 'Strunk and White' used by The Economist and the Chicago Reference Guide (for Academic Writing). They all advice against the use foreign words or have them all in brackets, italics, with translation and what not, like a quarantined import goods. Everyone is very protective of their culture power! 😀 Best! T
The fact that all cultures had their special versions of "dragons", some with feathers and claws, others as reptiles, clearly shows that such beasts must have existed, and that they were probably romanticized "dinosaurs". This also explains why the Chinese only had their snake-shaped "loong", while the Europeans had these heavy monstrosities, and the Egyptians had their giant crocodiles. Excellent insights about China. Thank you!
Thanks. We went to an up-to-date Dinosaur Exhibition in Tokyo some years ago, and I was surprised to find that Tyranno-Saurus Rex had feathers and was... green. The Raptors looked very different from what is presented to us in popular culture (Jurrassic Park, History Channel). That said, the skeletons of these beasts were clearly "dragons" to me. Best! T
Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan are both Jews. It's fitting they would take a grandiose name like Long, in the way the European Ashkenazi took names like "Castle" and "Gold".
Dragons, like all myths, firmly embedded in our collective genetic memory, have their basis in reality having existed so far ago in the mists of antiquity that any hard evidence of their presence has long since vanished. Factor in the tremendous losses stemming from periodic, cataclysmic, wipe-out. What once was, can always be again.
Thanks! I miss the times of great libraries, because it is difficult these days to look things up. That is because the Internet is garbage at this point. It is impossible to find great books on anthropology or archeology without a university key to JStor or the Journals. The public believes it can self-educate or self-study to a professor level, but that is delusional. The open source internet cannot replace a highly selected specialized library like Oxford or Leiden, let alone a research institute (that are always secretive and protective of their work, contrary to public opinons about free research and free knowledge). Anyway, Tokyo University has an excellent collection on mythology, occults studies, and comparatistic, including Chinese. What clearly transpired to me was that European scholars came to Asia and purposely translated East Asian mythology, including dragon and phoenix mythology, into Western terminologies. The 'Loong' 龙 is such an important character and cultural achievement of the sinitic cultures. The Europeans knew this. So they took it. Dragons. Best! T
Actually, doctor the Dragon was venerated in the West before Christianity neutered western man. The Vikings used them as ornamentation on the prows of their ships and they were the symbol of Magick. Which is why characters like St. George and Tristan had to be invented so bejesus could overcome them in the minds of Kölns ("Rome") deluded sheep. In the Qabalah Seraphim (Dragons) are the fiery angels who defend all that is sacred in the World of Formation (Yetzirah). They reside in the realm of Fear (Geburah) and are kind of like Gods bouncers. Take a look at what's in front of the UN building in New York City as they proceed with their plans to murder the world.
Yes, I believe it. The Christians inherited a world that had no living dragons left to kill. But they adopted pagan mythologies from the North into their literature and historical canon. Suddently, we had heroic Knights slaying much larger lindwurms (a Scandinavian wormlike monsters), jabberwockies, and wyverns, and so on. Creative set in. Large reptiles turned into monsters, turned into sword-and-sorcery fantastic beasts. That said, I believe dragons really roamed the earth. ;-) Best! T
The dragon and long are energy streams, eastern nations especially China understand this and that is why they are revered. The west always has to have an enemy to slay. The Celts knew about the flow of nature's energy, look what happened to them, called names, killed and converted to the one God. Nature's way was the feminine way but the worship of the female gods were banned. We have today the inability of the west to revere the divine feminine. But human souls are lost and are crying out for what they do not know. If they would turn inward and find their opposite within, they would start to heal. Feng Shui, Geomancy. The art of placement. Ley lines are the flow of Earth's energy. The Chinese understand this. Europe's ley lines were changed and used through the use of the sacred sites, like Stonehenge, the placing of stones, planting trees, guiding the flow of water. Creating harmony. The ancients knew this. Dragons are not evil, they are symbolic of Earth's energy fields.
Agreed. Where did it all go wrong where the dragons were slayed in virtually all Western myths and legends. It was practically a given: slay the monsters, be a slayer! 💀👀
I wonder if the celestial aspect of Chinese long comes from their being used as a metaphor for comets and their concomitant woes (if the research of Hagstrum et al. is anything to go by). Some of the ancient characters attributed to 龍 look rather squat and earthbound for celestial beings.
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As always, great article, Dr P!
龍- Earthbound comets and... mother-in-laws. 😆
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Dr.P,
You make a very important point, that ancient cultures offer their own explanations for this existence, and that translations only approximate their explanation. I can tell you have a great respect for Chinese culture, and attempt to educate us on the subtleties and sophistication therein.
I do attempt, despite my wounds and the reality of persistent efforts of a globalist elite to cancel everything and everyone, to approach this cultural view on its own terms to build understanding.
Your premise, that the loong is not simply a dragon raises questions in my own mind regarding clouds, water, and Chi.
I am not Chinese, but I do believe they have a right to their perspective and destiny. As you probably are quite aware, here in the west there is only one group allowed both perspective and destiny, and such occurs at the expense of everything and everyone else. I think this condition creates a meanness of spirit, a kind of existential bankruptcy, not only in the victims, but also in the perpetrators themselves.
May the loong bring to this world the gifts sorely needed in these times.
Thanks! I once asked the question: "Why not use loong, instead of dragon?" The Chinese [!] students replied: "Because we couldn't get published." I made an effort some years ago to check on English writing guides, like the infamous 'Strunk and White' used by The Economist and the Chicago Reference Guide (for Academic Writing). They all advice against the use foreign words or have them all in brackets, italics, with translation and what not, like a quarantined import goods. Everyone is very protective of their culture power! 😀 Best! T
The fact that all cultures had their special versions of "dragons", some with feathers and claws, others as reptiles, clearly shows that such beasts must have existed, and that they were probably romanticized "dinosaurs". This also explains why the Chinese only had their snake-shaped "loong", while the Europeans had these heavy monstrosities, and the Egyptians had their giant crocodiles. Excellent insights about China. Thank you!
Thanks. We went to an up-to-date Dinosaur Exhibition in Tokyo some years ago, and I was surprised to find that Tyranno-Saurus Rex had feathers and was... green. The Raptors looked very different from what is presented to us in popular culture (Jurrassic Park, History Channel). That said, the skeletons of these beasts were clearly "dragons" to me. Best! T
Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan are both Jews. It's fitting they would take a grandiose name like Long, in the way the European Ashkenazi took names like "Castle" and "Gold".
http://mileswmathis.com/hos.pdf
http://mileswmathis.com/blee2.pdf
That blew my mind, Joe! Amazing material. Thanks very much!
I was curious what you thought of that, given the genealogy was done on their Anglicized names. Another excellent article, by the way. Thanks Doctor!
Dragons, like all myths, firmly embedded in our collective genetic memory, have their basis in reality having existed so far ago in the mists of antiquity that any hard evidence of their presence has long since vanished. Factor in the tremendous losses stemming from periodic, cataclysmic, wipe-out. What once was, can always be again.
Thanks! I miss the times of great libraries, because it is difficult these days to look things up. That is because the Internet is garbage at this point. It is impossible to find great books on anthropology or archeology without a university key to JStor or the Journals. The public believes it can self-educate or self-study to a professor level, but that is delusional. The open source internet cannot replace a highly selected specialized library like Oxford or Leiden, let alone a research institute (that are always secretive and protective of their work, contrary to public opinons about free research and free knowledge). Anyway, Tokyo University has an excellent collection on mythology, occults studies, and comparatistic, including Chinese. What clearly transpired to me was that European scholars came to Asia and purposely translated East Asian mythology, including dragon and phoenix mythology, into Western terminologies. The 'Loong' 龙 is such an important character and cultural achievement of the sinitic cultures. The Europeans knew this. So they took it. Dragons. Best! T
Actually, doctor the Dragon was venerated in the West before Christianity neutered western man. The Vikings used them as ornamentation on the prows of their ships and they were the symbol of Magick. Which is why characters like St. George and Tristan had to be invented so bejesus could overcome them in the minds of Kölns ("Rome") deluded sheep. In the Qabalah Seraphim (Dragons) are the fiery angels who defend all that is sacred in the World of Formation (Yetzirah). They reside in the realm of Fear (Geburah) and are kind of like Gods bouncers. Take a look at what's in front of the UN building in New York City as they proceed with their plans to murder the world.
Yes, I believe it. The Christians inherited a world that had no living dragons left to kill. But they adopted pagan mythologies from the North into their literature and historical canon. Suddently, we had heroic Knights slaying much larger lindwurms (a Scandinavian wormlike monsters), jabberwockies, and wyverns, and so on. Creative set in. Large reptiles turned into monsters, turned into sword-and-sorcery fantastic beasts. That said, I believe dragons really roamed the earth. ;-) Best! T
Bless you! T